Whhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
I am so destraught by the Titanic-esque demise of my beloved Kwons that all my clever observations that I was making note of while I was watching has disolved quickly into the used tissues piled up during the episode.
I cant believe that by the end of this month LOST will be OVER....OVER. O-V-E-R!?
*on one note, just to nitpick (Kelly and K-10) will agree with me:
Claire moved WAAAAAY to easily and effortlessly considering she is supposed to be like 8.5 months pregnant! Next time she plays a pregnant woman she should really work on the preggo-waddle and do some better acting! Haha! ;-)
I am going to watch the episode again tomorrow morning with Justin, and usually when I watch it again I find lots of little clues and interesting "sights"
However, I completely encourage all of you to vent your remorse, spill your condolences for the Kwons, and if you managed to gain any insight aside from experiencing SUCH a loss...PLEASE, PLEASE post!
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Surprisingly, I did not lose my shit with Jin and Sun. All I could think about during that part was their daughter. I thought it was weird that Sun didn't insist that Jin leave to get off the island and take care of her. And I totally rolled my eyes at the Titanic part.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I think that now that they have died, they are going to pop up over to sideways land - or pop into themselves in the alternative time line. So I'm having trouble being sad about their loss, but I might just be in denial. Check back when this turns out not to be the case, haha. But if that theory is right, that might mean that to get over to the other time line, everyone would have to die, and I don't know how that would work out. If Jack stays on the island, will his sideways self have to bite the dust? That makes me sad, given his rekindled relationship with his son and his newly forming relationship with Claire. This theory falls apart a little bit with Locke, and all of the other people who are dead that we've seen this season (Libby, Charlie, etc) I don't know. I'm as confused now as I was at the beginning of the season!
Do you think Sayid redeemed himself? It seems that he didn't kill Desmond (yay) and he sacrificed himself with the bomb to get Jack out of the sub. That's pretty big stuff for someone who wasn't feeling anything and seemed to be under the control of Fake Locke a few episodes ago.
I felt bad for Claire being left behind again. It seems some of the crazy was wearing off. And Kate got shot - did anybody else hear that cheer from all the Kate Haters around the country? But still, she keeps getting saved for some reason.
I totally agree, I thought Sun would insist that Jin leave her so that he could raise their daughter. I found that odd and it kind of took away from the scene for me, especially given that he never even met her and wanted to be a family so bad. part of me was thinking that at teh end, when Jack was staring at the ocean, we would see Jin swimming ashore (i.e. he stayed with Sun until she died and then returned to the island). I kind of didn't think it was necessary. When Hurley started crying, though- man, that was sad! But I loved how Sayid was redeemed in the end.
ReplyDeleteI also thought it was interesting that MIB cannot directly kill any of them, and in the end, it was Sawyer who actually set off the "real" timer on the bomb. I guess we know for sure know that MIB is bad (and I read an article with the producers on ew.com which confirmed that they were trying to create mystery about that all season, but now the audience knows he is really a bad dude. The question is: What about Widmore)?
Thought it was interesting that in Sideways World, Locke loved his father more than anything and he caused him to become brain damaged. Interesting parallel that it happened due to a plane crash.
I can't wait for the next few episodes. I just read that the finale is now 2 1/2 hours, not 2.
Prediction: Jack will deliver Jin and Sun's baby in the "sideways world" next week.
ReplyDeleteThe death of Jin and Sun was difficult for me because I have my own wife. Its easy for all of us to insist that Sun force Jin out of there to be with their daughter but...thats his wife. How could he leave her there to drown alone? Hold her hand, and do it together. Jin did the honorable thing.
Are we going on the notion that Jack would have been right? Had Sawyer not pulled those wires the bomb would not have gone off? I think Jack was right. Locke (The Smoke Monster) is unable to kill any of the Candidates the same way the Man in Black could not have killed Jacob. The Smoke Monster found the loophole (Ben killed Jacob) and he will use that same loophole to attempt to pick off the remaining candidates.
So then, the Man In Black (Locke) does not need a plane or a submarine to leave the island. He needs to stand, unopposed, on the island....victorious. When all the forces of good are defeated or killed, evil will spread from the island.
Jack, Jack, Jack....will this experience turn him against Jacob? His "faith" is being tested once again. Lets see if he has genuinely changed.
It is clear to me that this comes down to the age old question: Evil will always exist so is it worth fighting against it? Remember, evil may have occasional victories here and there but, in the end, good always wins. That was the basis of the Star Wars movies and it will be the final point of Lost. How we get there....I can't say we will find out soon enough.
I definitely think Jack was right about the bomb. I wonder how Smokey will try to kill off the other survivors, and if Claire will factor into that somehow since she was left behind again and angry. But, maybe that will present a chance for her to redeem herself like Sayid.
ReplyDeleteI felt bad for poor Lapidus, too. He got offed as soon as he wasn't needed anymore to fly that bomb filled (maybe - do we believe MIB on that one?) plane. Also, did something happen to Miles that I can't remember? Where is he? I liked him so I feel like I would remember if he died, but there's been a lot going on.
As for Jin and Sun thing, I've been thinking about it a little more. Remember when Juliet was dying and she was talking to Sawyer about getting coffee and then her body told Miles that 'It worked'? Yeah, I think she may have been talking about the alternate time line. So maybe when the castaways are close to death, they catch a glimpse of their 'other' lives (this happens to the folks in the alternate time line, too. When scary things happen there they see their alternate island life). What if Sun saw that other world where she and Jin are together with their daughter and was like, "hey, you know what? let's do that instead!" I think we can consider Jin's actions honorable in this case because he was doing what Sun wished. If Sun had asked him to leave for the kid and he didn't, I don't think that would have been the right thing for him to do. That scene was was weird and a bit cold to me in that they didn't even mention the daughter. Also, that they had only just been reunited didn't help much. Of course, I'm still in denial that they are really dead :)
shame on all those not totally moved by the Kwons death!!!
ReplyDeleteOk so after watching the episode again this morning I had some thoughts...
The direction that this is taking making it look to be like Jack is going to be the ultimate candidate is too easy and will be soooo predictable! Its alllllllwaaaaaaays been about whiny-jack. Even in Sideways world, all the other survivors are collected under his shadow (claire, the dentist, locke, the kwons etc). And of course in this "new" world he is still trying to Fix people as we saw in this episode. He just couldnt leave well-enough alone with Locke and had to keep pushing!
I am going to once again go on the record as questioning: What IF the MIB isnt really evil. What if Jacob is the bad one? We are always left to assume that light is good and dark is bad? Maybe this is one of those opposite things. Especially now with the lead in for next week! There ARE always two sides to every story....we shall see.
I love all of your comments! You have said it all. I am forgetting what happened to Miles and Faraday, too. I know that Eloise shot and killed him when she was young, but didn't we see him reappear again after that? So much has happened in this show since it began that I can't remember everything. And, yes, I cried when the Kwons died. Kyle kept saying "It's just a show. Look, all the characters have moved on with their careers and they are all in new shows now..." :)
ReplyDeleteOk, 3 weeks later...the only thing that I'm remembering now is that, no, they did not even make mention of their daughter. As a mother I sat in disbelief that the producers would somehow miss such an obvious thing. I like the idea that Sarah mentioned that if Sun had said to leave and raise their daughter that he would have had to leave and thus, mess up the show. That's their only way out of this one, grrr, writers/producers.
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